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This is the family tree of my father Robert Threlfall who was born on the 12th of February 1929 and died on the 15th of May 1997 at the age of 68.

Family relationships within the tree are with regards to myself.

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Third Generation (Grandparents)

Robert Batty Threlfall & Nellie Smith

Robert Threlfall – (12/2/1929 – 15/5/1997) 
Living Threlfall (25/11/1950 - )
 
 
Robert Batty Threlfall
Robert is the son of Mary Agnes Threlfall and was born on the 20th of May 1898 in 9 George Street in Lancaster.  It isn’t known who his father is but he is assumed, at present, to be William Batty.  Robert died on Valentine’s Day the 14th of February 1983 in Lancaster Moor Hospital in Lancaster at the age of 84. 
 
The cause of his death was bronchopneumonia, Emphysema and Dementia.  Though his death certificate gives his date of birth as the 22nd of May 1897.
 
His birth certificate gives no fathers name.  It has been thought within the family that his father was not listed as he was not married and perhaps died in a war – possibly the Boer War?  However Robert’s WWI military record does gives his father’s name as William.
 
In this year, 1898;
  • 2nd September, the Battle of Omdurman in Sudan sees an Anglo-Egyptian force slaughters 10 000 Sudanese warriors for the loss of 28 on the British side;
  • The War of the Worlds by H G Wells is published.
Sadly Robert never knew his mother as she died of TB on the 25th of September 1898 at 9 George Street and he was brought up by his grandparents on his father’s side, the Batty’s, as shown on the 1901 census.  At the home of James & Isabella Batty there is a Robert, aged 2, but he has been classed as a son.  The entry of son is likely to be incorrect as this Robert is the right age to be Robert Batty Threlfall.
 
Name Relationship Status Age Occupation Where Born
James Batty Head Married 54 General Labourer Lancaster
Isabella Batty Wife Married 62   Lancaster
James Batty Son Single 31 Soldier Lancaster
George Batty Son Single 20 Labourer Oil Cloth Works Lancaster
Elizabeth Batty Daughter Single 19 Cotton Weaver Lancaster
Henry Batty Son Single 14 Horse Minder Groom Lancaster
Sarah Batty Daughter Single 11   Lancaster
Robert Batty Threlfall Son Single 2   Lancaster
Stephen Anderson Boarder Single 21 Labourer Oil Cloth Works Preston
 
Robert is on the admission records for 1904 at St. Thomas Church Of England School, his last attendance is given as the 30th of June 1905.  St. Thomas’s was a mixed school, after this school the record says that he transferred to another mixed school.
 
The 1911 census has Robert Batty Threlfall again at the home of his Grandparents James & Isabella.  This time his name is given as Robert Batty Threlfall and also that he is a grandson.  He is the only 'child' present and is still going to school.  The family are living at 20 Spring Garden Street which is a six-roomed house;
 
Name Relationship Status Age Occupation Where Born
James Batty Head Married 64 General Labourer Lancaster
Isabella Batty  Wife Married 62   Lancaster
Robert Batty Threlfall Grandson Single 12 School   Lancaster
 
Today on the site of the house is a Travelodge hotel.
 
The Ashton Memorial, built when Robert was 11 in 1909,
dominates the Lancaster skyline

MILITARY SERVICE

 
   
Robert enlisted into the Army on the 25th of July 1916 at the age of 18.  It is not known whether he volunteered or was conscripted, though since he had just turned 18 it is likely that he was conscripted.  Conscription had started on the 1st of January 1916.
 
His military record shows that he was enlisted in The King's Own Royal Lancaster Regiment with regimental number was 33118.  Unusually there is no personal description of Robert such as giving eye and hair colour on his medical record.  At the time of his enlistment he was working as a horseman and still living in Spring Garden Street in Lancaster.  His father is given as William Batty but on the 26th of February 1917 Robert's next of kin became his grandmother, Mrs I Batty of 20 Spring Garden Street, for no apparent reason.  Perhaps William had died, maybe in the war, but it has not been possible to find a military record for William or a death.
                     
On the 24th of May 1917 Robert was posted to France and embarked from Folkstone in Kent and disembarked the following day in Bolougne and posted to the 7th Battalion of the Kings Own.  He was then reposted to the 1/5 The Kings Own, on the 22nd of June.
 
Robert was in trouble the following month when on the 16th of July he was awarded eight days for field punishment number two – for smoking in billet contrary to orders.
 
In field punishment number two, the prisoner was placed in fetters and handcuffs but was not attached to a fixed object, as in field punishment number one, and was still able to march with his unit.  This was a relatively tolerable punishment.  The soldier was also subjected to hard labour and loss of pay.
 
The next legible entry in his record is the 6th of February 1918 when he was granted leave to England.
 
Again he had leave to the UK between the 31st of January 1919 and the 14th of August 1919, in which time it appears that he was attached to the British Mission American with the American III Corps on the 13th of March 1919.
 
The next date 31st of October 1919, Dublin, is stamped on his record, but not on the postings page.
 
Operations of the 1st/5th Battalion, King’s Own Royal Lancaster Regiment in Robert’s time.
 
1917
31st July                        3rd Battle of Ypres – Battles of Pilckem Ridge & Attack near Wieltje
20th September              3rd Battle of Ypres – Battle of Menin Road Ridge & Attack on Wieltje
20th to 30th November   Battle of Cambrai
30th November              Attack near Epéhy & Defence of Limerick Post
1918
9th April                        Festubert-Givenchy
24th August                   Givenchy Craters
4th November                Battle of the Sambre - Advance on Ath
12th December               Moved to Brussels
1919
1st April                         Moved to Cologne
5th September                Returned to England then to Ireland
16th October                  Cadre returned to Lancaster
 
For his service to his country Robert was awarded the British War Medal and the Victory Medal.
 
A letter was received by the Army on the 13th of February 1919 from H. & O. Ducksbury, Livery Stable Keepers stating that Robert worked for them prior to August the 4th in 1914 and that they would be prepared to offer him employment.
 
King's Own Royal Lancaster Regiment
 
Robert Batty Threlfall Service Record, 1st page.
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Following demob Robert married Nellie Smith on the 31st of March 1920 at the Register Office in Lancaster.  The marriage certificate has no father for Robert and he is described as a bachelor but Nellie is listed as a widow.  Her name is given as Smith and not Laycock, the name of her first husband.  At this time Robert was working as a stonemason.
 
On the 9th of May 1924 the couple celebrated the birth of their first son, Joseph.  The birth was registered in Skipton and mother’s maiden name is Laycock.  A/M/J 1924, Skipton vol. 9a page 85.
 
Five years later and Nellie gave birth to their second son Robert on the 12th of February 1929 in a caravan at the Swann Inn in Addingham, Yorkshire.  This may suggest that the couple had lived a life on the road and this could be why Robert was now a labourer.  However by the start of the Second World War they had put down roots in Lancaster at 26 West Road.
                     
A year later on in Ilkley in Yorkshire on the 9th of July 1930 they had their third son John.  Though there is a record on Ancestry of Birth J/A/S 1930 Wharfedale Yorkshire 9a Page 211 Mother’s name is Laycock, again.
 
 
On the 1939 Register Robert is still at West Road with Nellie, Elizabeth Courtney (Nellie's illegitimate daughter) and their three sons, Joseph, Robert and John.
 
 
Name Date of birth Status Occupation  
Threlfall Batty R 20 May 1898 Married Stores Labourer  
Threlfall Nellie 30 November 1892 Married Seaming Gasproof Garments  
Courtney Elizabeth 12 September 1918 Single Domestic Servant  
Threlfall Joseph 9 May 1924 Single Back Tenter Graining  
Threlfall Robert 12 February 1929 Single At School  
Threlfall John 9 July 1930 Single At School  
 
On the 11th of February 1950 their son Robert married Elizabeth Margaret Arnold at St. Barnabas Church in Morecambe, Lancashire.
 
In 1951 the couple’s youngest son, 21 year-old John married Gillian P Cawsey in Lancaster.
 
 
Noted events in his life were:
*  Birth Registered: on the 2nd June 1898 in Lancaster. 
*  Living: 1901, 9 George Street, Lancaster. 
*  He was educated in 1904 in St. Thomas's Church of England School, Lancaster.
*  Living: 1911, 20 Spring Garden Street, Lancaster. 
*  He was a scholar in 1911.
*  He worked as a horseman on 4th of August 1914 in H & O Ducksberry, Livery Stable Keepers, 11 King Street (Offices), Lancaster.
*  Living: 25th of April 1916, 20 Spring Garden Street, Lancaster. 
*  Enlisted: 25th of April 1916.
*  He worked as a horseman on the 25th of April 1916.
*  He served in the military in the Kings Own Royal Lancaster Regiment on the 15th of February 1917.
*  He served in the military now in 1st Battalion, Kings Own Royal Lancaster Regiment on the 26th of October 1919 in Fulwood Barracks.
*  He worked as a general labourer in Lancaster Moor Hospital, Lancaster.
*  Living: 31st of March 1920, 20 Spring Garden Street, Lancaster. 
*  He worked as a stonemason on the 31st of March 1920.
*  Living: 12th of February 1929, Caravan, Swan Garth, Addingham, Yorkshire. 
*  He worked as a general labourer on the 12th of February 1929.
*  Living: 29th of September 1939, 26 West Road, Lancaster. 
*  He worked as a stores labourer on the 29th of September 1939.
 
 

 

  

 

 

Robert married Nellie Smith on the 31st of March 1920 in the Register Office in Lancaster. 
 
Children from this marriage were:
i.     Joseph Threlfall – (9/5/1924 – Aug 2002)
       Born in Skipton in Yorkshire.
       Married Alice.
       Died in Stratton in Cornwall.
 
ii.    Robert Threlfall – (12/2/1929 – 15/5/1997)
       Born at the Swan Inn in Addingham in Yorkshire.
       Married Elizabeth Margaret Arnold on the 11th of February 1950 in St. Barnabus Church in Morecambe in Lancashire.
       Died in Lancaster.
 
iii.  John Threlfall – (9/7/1930 – 29/4/1996)
      Born in Ilkley in Yorkshire.
      Died in Lancaster.
 
 
Nellie Smith
Nellie is the daughter of James William Smith and was born on the 30th of November 1892 in Yorkshire.  She died in 1962 in Lancaster at the age of 69.
                    
In this year, 1892;
  • 3rd January, J. R. R. Tolkien, professor and author of The Lord of the Rings is born, he died in 1973;
  • 15th March, Liverpool FC is founded after Everton left Anfield in a dispute over rent.
On the 1901 census there is a Nellie Smith who was born in 1893 in Leeds, Yorkshire.  She appears as a visitor at 2 Victoria Buildings in Calverley in Yorkshire.  Calverley is a village close to Leeds and it is known that Nellie has a link to Calverley.  The house is the home of Joseph Horton and his Mary, though it is not definite that this is our Nellie it does look like it is.
 
Name Relationship Status Age Occupation Where Born
Joseph Horton Head Married 53 Quarry Labourer Cambridge
Mary A Horton Wife Married 47   Yorks Leeds
Nellie Smith Visitor Single 8   Lancaster
 
 
On the 13th of March 1912 Nellie married Harry Laycock at the St. John the Evangelist the Parish Church in Farsley, Yorkshire.  Harry, a hadloom weaver, was 20 years-old and Nellie a year younger.  The marriage is recorded as J/F/M 1912 North Brierley, Yorkshire - West Riding Vol 9b page 35.  Their marriage banns were also read at St. Wilfrid’s in Calverley on the 18th and 25th of February as well as the 3rd of March.
 
At the time of the wedding Nellie was pregnant as six months later on the 11th of September Nellie gave birth to their first child Mary Ann in Calverley.  Farsley and Calverley are just a couple of kilometres apart.
 
Just two weeks before the start of World War One the couple had a second child, Clifford who was born on the 13th of July 1914 in Otley, Yorkshire. 
 
Shortly after hostilities broke out in August the British Government had called for another 100 000 men to volunteer for the army and by the 4th of September Harry had enlisted, leaving Nellie to raise a new born and a two-year old alone.  The Army paid a separation allowance to Nellie for their children, however on the 29th of April 1916 the War Office sent a memorandum to the Officer T/F Records in York;
Please note that no further issue of Separation Allowance will be made to Mrs. N. Laycock, of 71, Ilkley Road, Otley, Yorks, the wife of No. 13479 Private H. Laycock, 9th Battalion, West Riding Regiment, at her husband’s request on account of her immoral relations with a man named Wormald.
 
In future Motherless rate will be issued for the child Mary to the soldiers mother, Mrs. E. Laycock, 23, Tennyson Street, Farsley, Near Leeds, while it is in her care and Ordinary Rate for the child Clifford to its mother, while it is in her care.
 
I am to request that the above information may be communicated, through his Commanding Officer, to the Soldier, who, unless he is under compulsory stoppages under Section 145 of the Army Act, by reason of there being an Order of Court against him, should no longer be required to make an allotment to his wife.
 
On the 12th of August 1918 Nellie gave birth to a daughter, Elizabeth in Prestwich in Lancashire.  Although she was illegitimate she had the surname Courtney.  So it appears that whilst Harry is still posted abroad in the army she had another affair which this time resulted in a child.
 
At the time of his discharge on the 12th of March 1919 Harry is listed as married.
 
 
On the 31st of March 1920 Nellie married Robert Batty Threlfall at the Register Office in Lancaster.  The marriage certificate lists her as a widow and her name is given as Smith and not Laycock.  However it appears that this second marriage was bigamous.  There is no notification that Harry had died and it is very likely that he was still alive.  Harry’s father was Edmund Laycock and Harry had two brother’s Joseph William and Fred and sister’s Alice and Mary who were still alive.  Edmund died on New Years’ Eve 1937 and his probate record reads;
Laycock, Edmund of 23 Tennyson-road Farsley Leeds died 31 December 1937 Probate Wakefield 26 January to Joseph William Laycock turner Harry Laycock pattern weaver and Fred Laycock commercial clerk.  Effects £359 12s. 2d.
 
It is possible that Nellie claimed that Harry was dead in order to marry Robert as it was not possible to get a divorce from Harry.
 
At the time of her marriage to Robert, Nellie was working as a domestic servant and her address was given as the School House in East Road in Lancaster.  But since Nellie appears to have married bigamously it could explain why after her marriage to Robert that the couple became travellers.
 
On the 24th of May 1928 Nellie obtained a Pedlar’s Certificate from the West Riding of the County of York Police District.  It allowed her to trade in pursuance of the Pedlar’s Acts of 1871 and 1881 anywhere in the UK for a year.  On the certificate Nellie was described as aged 36 years, 5 feet 3 inches tall with brown eyes and black hair with a fresh complexion and a native of Leeds.  The certificate did not have any record of convictions on it.
 
After almost nine years of marriage Nellie gave birth to Robert on the 12th of February 1929 in a caravan at the Swann Inn in Addingham, Yorkshire.  By this time she was again using the name Laycock since on the birth certificate of Robert, her son, she is known as Nellie Threlfall formerly Laycock.
 
Their time on the road ended before the start of the Second World War as she was living at 26 West Road in Lancaster according to the 1939 register, as shown above.  She was living there with Robert Batty Threlfall and their three sons, together with her illegitimate daughter Elizabeth Courtney.  Nellie was working seaming gas proof garments.
 
 
Nellie’s granddaughter, Elizabeth says that Nellie had had a stroke some time before she died as she only remembers her in a wheelschair.
 
Nellie died in 1962 in Lancaster and her death is recorded as;                    
Nellie Threlfall Birth Date: abt. 1893 Date of Registration: Jun 1962 Age at Death: 69 Registration district: Lancaster Inferred County: Lancashire Volume: 10c Page: 519
 
Noted events in her life were:
*  Visiting: 1901, 2 Victoria Buildings, Calverley, Yorkshire.
*  Living: 13th of March 1912, Calverley, Yorkshire.
*  Living: 29th of April 1916, 71 Ilkley Road, Otley, Yorkshire,
*  Living: 31st of March 1920, The School House, East Road, Lancaster. 
*  She worked as a domestic servant on the 31st of March 1920.
*  Living: 12th of February 1929, Caravan, Swan Garth, Addingham, Yorkshire. 
*  Living: 29th of September 1939, 26 West Road, Lancaster. 
*  She worked seaming gas proof garments on the 29th of September 1939.
 
Nellie married Harry Laycock on the 13th of March 1912 in St. John the Evangelist, Farsley, Yorkshire. 
Children from this marriage were:
i.     Mary Ann Laycock – (11/9/1912 - )
       Born in Calverley in Yorkshire.
       Married John Henry Simpson on the 24th of February 1945 in Wharfedale in Yorkshire.
 
ii.    Clifford Laycock – (13/7/1914 - )
       Born in Otley in Yorkshire.
       Married Olga Evelyn C Guest in 1945 in Manchester, Lancashire.
 
Nellie had a relationship with man called Courtney in which she had an illegitimate child:
i.     Elizabeth Courtney – (12/9/1918 – June 1975)
       Born in Prestwich in Lancashire.
       Married James J Bradley in 1945 in Lancaster.
       Married Stainslaw Jeziorkowski afterwards.
 
Nellie married Robert Batty Threlfall on the 31st of March 1920 in the Register Office, Lancaster. 
 
Children from this marriage were:
i.     Joseph Threlfall – (9/5/1924 – Aug 2002)
       Born in Skipton in Yorkshire.
       Married Alice.
       Died in Stratton in Cornwall.
 
ii.    Robert Threlfall – (12/2/1929 – 15/5/1997)
       Born at the Swan Inn in Addingham in Yorkshire.
       Married Elizabeth Margaret Arnold on the 11th of February 1950 in St. Barnabus Church in Morecambe in Lancashire.
       Died in Lancaster.
 
iii.  John Threlfall – (9/7/1930 – 29/4/1996)
      Born in Ilkley in Yorkshire.
      Died in Lancaster.
 
 
Harry Laycock – (23/10/1891 – 1954)  - Nellie's first husband
Although Harry is not a blood relative it has been possible to find out more about him, mainly from his war record.
 
Harry was born on the 23rd of October 1891 in Farsley in Yorkshire and is the son of Edmund Laycock and his wife Martha.  His father worked as a stonemason.  By 1901 he was the second child of five and the family were living at 27 Prospect Street in Farsley.
 
By 1911 the family had moved within the town to 12 Sydney Street and Harry was working as a pattern weaver in a local worsted mill.  Whilst living at this address he married Nellie Smith on the 13th of March 1912 in the parish church of St. John in Farsley.  Harry was 20 years-old, a year older than Nellie.  On the marriage certificate his occupation was given as a handloom weaver.
 
At the time of the wedding Nellie was pregnant as six months later on the 11th of September Nellie gave birth to their first child Mary Ann in Calverley.   Just two weeks before the start of World War One the couple had a second child, Clifford who was born on the 13th of July 1914 in Otley, Yorkshire. 
 
It’s not known why Harry enlisted into the army on the 4th of September 1914 with Clifford just under two months old, but his war record shows that he enlisted on that day in Otley in Yorkshire.  At the time he was working for Dunyon & Barraclough Co., of Otley Mills.  It is possible that the men of the Otley Mills perhaps enlisted as a ‘Pals Brigade’.  There is a memorial to the men of Otley Mills.
 
 
The memorial no longer looks like this as the plaques and figure were stolen in 2017.
Memorial details
Memorial type, Composite.
District, Leeds; Town, Otley; County, West Yorkshire; Country, England.
 
Commemoration
First World War (1914-1918)
 
Ceremony
Unveiled, Date: 22-05-1922
Attended by: Local Clergy/Dignitaries
Dedicated, Date: 22-05-1922
Attended by: Local Clergy/Dignitaries
Opened, Date: 22-05-1922
Attended by: Local Clergy/Dignitaries
 
Current location
Grove Hill Park, Bradford Road, Otley, Leeds, West Yorkshire, LS21 3LP
 
Eight acre park with a serviceman figure placed within it. Latter comprises a two stepped base surmounted by stepped and tapered plinth and figure of a serviceman with rifle slung over his shoulder. Inscription on plaques attached to the sides of the plinth.
Inscription Front Face:
 
GROVE HILL PARK
AND
THIS MEMORIAL
ARE DEDICATED
BY
WM ACKROYD
& CO., LTD.,
AND
DUNCAN,
BARRACLOUGH
& CO., LTD.,
AS A TRIBUTE TO
AND IN
PERPETUAL
REMEMBRANCE
OF THE MEN
FROM
OTLEY MILLS
WHO FOUGHT FOR
THE
SAFETY AND HONOUR
OF THEIR
COUNTRY IN THE
WAR
1914 - 1918.
Sides: (Names)
 
199 Names on memorial including Laycock, H
 
Commemorations
First World War (1914-1918)
Total names on memorial: 199
Served and returned: 184
Died: 15
 
Harry was serviceman 552360 of the Labour Corps.  At the time he enlisted Harry was just 5 feet 3 inches tall and weighed 122 lbs.  He had a girth of 34 inches, a fresh complexion, blue grey eyes and brown hair.
 
Harry survived the war though he did get wounded twice.  He suffered shrapnel to the head in 1915 and a gunshot wound to his chest side.  He was discharged on the 12th of March 1919.
 
Three years after being discharged 30 year-old Harry married 21 year-old Zilpah Rutherford in 1922 and registered the marriage in Bramley in Yorkshire.  By this time ‘his widow’ Nellie had already married Robert Batty Threlfall.
 
On the 1939 register Harry and Zilpah are living at 39 Thornfield Avenue in Pudsey in Yorkshire.  The register shows that they had at least two children.  Harry is still working a a handloom pattern weaver.
 
Harry died in 1954 at the age of 62 and his death was registered in Leeds.
 
Noted events in his life were:
*  Living: 13th of March 1912, 12 Sydney Street, Farsley, Yorkshire.
*  He worked as a handloom weaver on the 13th of March 1912.
*  Enlisted: 7th of September 1914.
*  He worked as a handloom weaver for Dunyon & Barroughclough in Otley Mills in Yorkshire at the time of his enlistment on the 7th of September 1914.
*  Living: 12th of February 1919, 12 Tennyson Street, Farsley, Leeds, Yorkshire at time of discharge.
*  Living: 31st of March 1920, The School House, East Road, Lancaster. 
*  He worked as a pattern weaver on the 26th of January 1938. from his father's probate.
*  Living: 29th of September 1939, 39 Thornfield Avenue, Pudsey, Yorkshire. 
*  He worked as a handloom pattern weaver on the 29th of September 1939.
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Ancestors

 
3rd Generation 4th Generation 5th Generation  
Grandparents Great Grandparents 2nd Great Grandparents  
   
 
 
James Batty
(31/12/1846 - 1912)
 
 
William Batty - probably
(1878 - 1938)
 
 
 
 
Isabella Bowker
(18/5/1849 - 20/9/1920)
 
Robert Batty Threlfall
(20/5/1898 - 14/2/1983)
 
 
 
 
 
Thomas Threlfall
(1826 - 1883)
 
 
Mary Agnes Threlfall
(2/5/1869 - 25/9/1898)
 
 
 
 
Mary Geldart
(1831 - 1880)
 
 
 
 
 
 
James William Smith
(1870 - )
 
 
 
 
 
 
Nellie Smith
(30/11/1892 - 1962)